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Turns out Kali is just a little behind the times. That’s what happens when you shun all contact with the outside world for years at at time…

I’ve always been the kid that missed the reference. Growing up, I lived in the Colorado foothills. It was a 30 minute drive to the nearest store, which was a gas station/grocery store/wild west restaurant. An hour, if you wanted any meaningful grocery selections. The family didn’t get out to see films much, or listen to the radio, and for most of the time growing up the TV antenna SOMETIMES got as many as 6 channels. The first CD I ever was allowed to buy for myself was Asia’s first album. I’d never heard any of the music, because I hadn’t heard any of the music that was available in the store. I chose it because it had a dragon on the cover. (This proved to be a great basis for decision-making. I love that Album. Perhaps because I bought it in the HEEEEEAT OF THE MOMENT! HEAT OF THE MOMENT! HEEEAAAT OF THE MOMENT, SURE IN YOUR EEEEEEEYYYYYEEESSSS okay yes I’ll shut up now). The closest child lived several miles away, which made for a great walk going downhill and a miserable walk going uphill…(I should know, I walked it with my sister everyday after school…Until a mountain lion ate a neighbor’s golden retriever. Then we got a 4-wheeler.)

The long and short of it is, when I got to college there was a wide range of pop culture that I had absolutely no idea about. To this day, one of the most common phrases I hear is “Seriously, you’ve never seen ____? Seriously?” I’ll admit, this has gotten SLIGHTLY better since getting Netflix. I feel that I am at least moderately “in the know” now. Enough to at least recognize most cosplayers at cons, and catch the joke now and again. Considering a good half of all communication at cons seems to be obscure references, I’m just happy when I can keep up most of the time.

Is there anything that people are often shocked you haven’t heard of or seen?


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Oh god, Robin, all the things. All the things. I grew up in Chicago, so not exactly nowhere, but home-schooled. And without a television. And not allowed to listen to anything besides classical music or have any of the toys that were popular at the time (My sister and I had illicit Barbie, but my father did not know. Until he found out.). The “Oh my GOD, you haven’t heard of/seen [insert thing here]?!” reaction used to be really embarrassing and upsetting to me, but now I just grin and say, “Yeah, I live under a rock. You didn’t know?” It’s almost always effective.

“Sole survivor… solitary fighter!” Good first album! 🙂

Kali experiencing culture shock is also going to be interesting.

I’m an English major, but I’m more interested in contemporary literature than the classics, so people will always be, like, “Have you read X?” and I shuffle my feet and lie.

I enjoy contemporary literature a lot, but I’ve loved a few classics as well. The Count of Monte Cristo took me a looooooong while to get through, but I LOVE it. Particularly since the ending is so different than how pretty much every adaptation portrays it. I’m getting through Sherlock Holmes and The Tale of Genji right now as well. Once you get past some of the language style choices, there’s some really great and compelling stories in a lot of those. I just can’t read them quickly, like I can with a Dresden novel. So I’d usually read just 15 minutes of the big heavy classic books. Took me 6 months to get through the Count, but it was worth it. 🙂

Three things:
1-Dragons are always good factors to use in a decision 🙂
2-Count of Monte Cristo was perhaps the only classic my mom never tried to get me to read, so of course I loved it despite my general aversion to that genre.
3-Dresden novel? As in, the Dresden Files by Jim Butcher?

1 – It’s so true.
2 – Monte Cristo is a book that is good enough that I expect I’ll read it again in my life, despite it’s length.
3 – Indeed! I did mean the Jim Butcher series. I usually read those in a single, day-long binge.

Skysong, you should read the classics, they help inform the contemporary stuff you prefer. They might surprise you! If nothing else, though, they might make the contemporary stuff that much more enjoyable. 😀

I tend to judge media I consume fairly harshly, and have no problem not consuming something I don’t like even if its the current big thing. Thus, I have read all of one chapter of Harry Potter and never seen the movies. There’s a ton of jokes and references I simply don’t get. I’m pretty much immune to peer pressure and trends, and with my lack of t.v. (do have netflix), disinterest in social media, and failure to listen to the radio, I now get a ton of that “what?!” reaction.

I’m that way with movies especially. I’ll vet a film against the opinions of friends and find out exactly what they liked about it and why. I’m not willing to go see a film for the special effects, so if that’s the only thing anybody has to say about why it’s “so good” then that’s not enough. What about the CHARACTERS? What about the STORY? Nothing to say about them? I’ll wait to watch it at the dollar theater…or never bother at all.

Aw, Kali has such lovely eyes; it would be a shame if she hid them.

I grew up in suburbia so I was the geeky, nerdy kid with the geeky dad who introduced us to Sci-fi early on so most nerd culture I get (other pop culture, not so much). My husband is considerably older than I am so sometimes he makes references about things I never heard of. For example: we were at a comic con and he found Captain and Tennille action figures. When he excitedly came back and told me, he was shocked that I didn’t know who they were. He later tried to tell the same story to friends of mine and they gave him the polite smile I imagine I gave him, then they turned to me to clarify.

Alas, if you are the last Unicorn, it’s not advisable to advertise it to the populace that is convinced you don’t exist, and if you do exist, that you should be killed. Kali’s going to have to get used to wearing those goggles…

I can relate to your husband in that for a long time nobody had heard of anything that I liked. Then I got a tumblr account, and that keeps me more informed about “kids these days…” 🙂

I’ve been thinking about commenting for a while now and I’m finally writing something! I definitely understand feeling “out of the loop”. I’ve gotten much better at keeping up with pop culture, but growing up I would often hear “You seriously haven’t seen that? SERIOUSLY?” as well. I would especially hear it because I’ve ALWAYS lived in a very diverse and densely populated area of the US. Back then I would constantly be missing those darned obscure references and I seriously think that stunted some part of my social development! Even today I still don’t understand many references even though I know significantly more than I used to. Like, I’ve never seen Forrest Gump, Bambi, The Notebook, The Wizard of Oz, Titanic and many more XD

Huzzah! Welcome to commenting! We’re glad to have you!

You and I can be in the same out-of-the-loop club when it comes to The Notebook and Titanic. Although in both cases that was because there was so much hype for them that I, being a Independent Teenager So There at the time, refused to see them. And then I never got around to it later. Ah well. 🙂

About the argument here, the whole “read the classics because you have to to get modern stuff” is an attitude that has always induced me to frothing rage for very little reason except that I hate being made to do things or manipulated into them. The idea that once cannot be (X) without doing (Y) is another, related idea that I absolutely despise which probably has a lot to do with it as well.

I don’t see why I should read things that don’t interest me in the slightest and then pretend to like them simply because they are culturally significant. It’s one of the reasons that when I -did- encounter a ‘classic’ I somewhat enjoyed (The Count of Monte Cristo, actually), I couldn’t bring myself to finish reading it because everyone had been telling me I ‘had’ to for so long I just gave up and read enough to mine quotes for the book report.

Ahh bummer! Count of Monte Cristo is one of my favorite books. (Doesn’t mean it has to be yours though!)

I think reading, in general, is good. No matter what a person reads. Although it does drive me crazy when somebody says that reading fiction is a waste of time, because you don’t learn anything from it. (A student said this to me this week and I had to stop myself from giving him a lecture about the many things fiction can teach!)

It is amazing how much I have learned from things people say is ‘worthless’! I have learned muchly trivia from crime shows, children’s television, and fantasy novels that applies in real life.

Someday, someday, I will re-read The Count of Monte Cristo, because I think I will enjoy it. Now that the stigma of ‘having’ to read it is gone, and now that I’m old enough to really understand it (honestly, middle school is too young for most classics, I think).

However, on the list of ‘modern classics’ I have read, The Outsiders is probably one of the best books I ever read in English class, or elsewhere.

Lord of the Flies was terrible, though. IMHO.

I think a large portion of it was the fact that I had to take a class in middle sschool called “Academic Literacy”, which was essentially “How to pass (specific standardized test all middle school students in my state had to take) and reading classics because you have to to know things”, and the teacher was one of those people who thought all fantasy was worthless (unless it had won an award, because then you had to read it) and that ‘intelligent’ people had to have already read the classics to be considered ‘anybody’ worth knowing/listening to. And ‘I do’t like it’ wasn’t an excuse because all ‘intelligent’ people love the classics. As an ‘intelligent’ but lazy person who has disliked almost every classic she has ever read but imbibes fantasy novels in great number, you can guess how well that teacher and I got along.

Yeesh! I think a teacher like that would turn anybody off from reading at all! The fact that you kept up the habit after is amazing on its own.

Luckily in middle school I was too arrogant for that. I’d already tried to give up writing for other people and that got me nowhere, and I’d already dismissed her as a pompous witch whose opinions held no merit. Reading has been a large part of my life since I can remember and so has fantasy, so removing it from my life was never really an option even in my own mind. XD

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