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REMINDER – This is the last week to participate in the LeyLines Love Contest!

Careless, Lu. Very careless.

I always enjoy characters that people underestimate. Perhaps because I’ve often run into people that would underestimate my capabilities? Particularly in my first year of college, studying for Engineering. Boys would often take on the role of the “wise mentor” and I would take on the role of “desperately wanting to punch them in the FACE.” IN THE FACE.

*ahem* However, the best way I saw this dealt with was by my friend Teresa, who I’m pretty sure is a genius. You know how some people say they “love learning,” but they don’t actually love the frustrating process of learning? Teresa never exhibited that frustration, and she would seek out new things to discover in her free time. Like teaching herself languages. Or mathematical theorems. The long and short of it is that she is really, really smart, and on our first day of Calculus together, we sat next to a kid that would turn to her each time the professor would pause and explain, in a patronizing tone, what the professor had just taught. I wanted to strangle him to death with his own shirt, but Teresa just smiled. And when the teacher started asking questions, she started answering them. Clearly, and confidently, and without hesitation. And in this kid’s eyes you could see the dawning realization that this young woman did NOT need his “help” with math. He needed hers.

Have you ever been underestimated, and how did you deal with it?

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Pool: I’m going to go for gut

underestimations: n/a
overestimations: EVERYTHING
For some reason, because I can do quite a lot, people expect me to do quite a lot. I like to read and play games and just talk with people, though. Why does it have to be some huge effort? I was expected to be a straight A student, Eagle Scout, and president/captain of at least 2 clubs. It wasn’t so much a question or desire as it was what they judged me by. (end rant)

No one seems to underestimate me, and I’m not sure why.

I’m in the same boat as Iris, here. I was never underestimated. However, people always expected me to do far more than I was already doing, and it all close to perfectly.

I would almost have liked to be underestimated.

As for this, though, I am very excited to see the results of said underestimation.

I’ve always expected perfection from myself, and that’s impossible enough! If I’d had teachers and peers expecting perfection…yikes! What have you done to set healthy, non-perfection limits for yourself? (It’s something I still struggle with, so if you have any tips I’d love to try them!)

I haven’t yet. 😛 It’s why I don’t have my webcomic yet. I’m young enough that it won’t matter for a while more, but I would like tips too.

Ahhhh, see, when it comes to webcomics, I have tricked my perfectionism into working FOR me. Instead of trying to create perfect work, I have convinced myself that the priority must be on the perfect SCHEDULE. So on the page art and story I focus on doing my best work, but not perfect work.

You’re never too young to start working on a creative project. I worked on my first webcomic at 13, and created my first solo-comic at 15. Without those projects, LeyLines wouldn’t exist. If a webcomic is something you really want to do, don’t let perfectionism get in the way. Start now, because I want to read the awesome stories you’ll create!!

You’re too kind.

I’ll have to try that schedule trick. I’m currently trying to write the script, and it’s easier to neglect because no one else is going to see the script.

Awesome!!! If the script’s giving you trouble, don’t be afraid to experiment with different techniques. Every single webcomic creator I know uses a different method. The only “right” way to do it is what works for YOU.

Aw man, I’m so excited now! What’s it about??

I don’t have any taglines or anything yet, but this should do for now.

It’s about four people in a steampunk dystopia who all have their own reasons to change the way things are run, and find themselves both at odds and working together.

Also there is lots of magic and warping of the atmosphere and hard decisions and stuff. aka FUN.

That sounds like SO MUCH FUN! I really hope you decide to move forward with your story! It sounds like there’s a lot of great material there! At the very least, maybe some short stories from the world to test the waters and figure out your process? Best of luck!!!

Ahhhh GO ZHIRO! He is definitely giving me reason to award him the title of “favorite LeyLines character.”

I get both under- and overestimated on a regular basis. People underestimate my dedication and seriousness when it comes to subjects I care about, but they also tend to overestimate my ability to handle certain kinds of social situations. I’m a very confident and somewhat private person, so they’re surprised when I can’t complete a task or get overwhelmed due to anxiety issues.

Healthy non-perfectionist limits… ummm I’m pretty short on them (looks for way to present a null set). I do, however, have a way of living without care, but it doesn’t really qualify as healthy. I really like your perfect schedule trick, though. I’ll try that out and see what I find. If it’s interesting, I’ll even share it.

Well, my love for Zhiro just went from enormous to astronomical. <3 <3 <3

And as for being underestimated… my conversations with people about my college career are all secretly this, even though they pretend to be something else: Yes, I'm an English major. I'm also really smart. Just because ninety percent of English majors are idiots does not mean we all are. No, no, really, I'm smart. I picked my degree because I wanted to improve my cultural knowledge and develop media literacy. Yes, those are skills. Yes, they are important.

ZHIRO LOVE TO THE MOOOOON!

It’s funny, I have a similar conversation whenever I’m talking to creative people about engineering, or technical people about creative things. I’m always fighting the urge to interject, “I’m smart and capable and I draw good! BAAAAAAAHHHHH!” I just get frustrated when people say “Oh, you’re ____, therefore you’re good at ______, but you can’t do ______.” No thank you!! Keep me out of that box!!

Some of the most interesting people I know got English majors, yet even I have caught myself going “Well, this accounting test was written for English Majors, so what’s the big deal?” Then I stop, think about what I’ve said, and smack myself. Particularly since one of my English major friends can do computations in his head far better than I can!

I’m a very short woman (4’10”, that’s short in just about every country), so I tend to get doubly under-estimated. Sometimes I work as a millwright, and I’ve had to deal with everything from catcalls to patronizing remarks. I find that overcompensating with cussing and longer hours and never asking for help is the solution. I also never yell, because when you are a tiny woman with a soprano voice, shrieking is just going to get you laughed at, and there you are pissed because some idiot has laid your welding cable over metal frames and then run over it with a scissor lift and by some miracle no one is dead. Outside of manual labor, I still have the short-people-complex trait of not asking for people to get things off of shelves for me.

Also, doctors think that tiny means anesthetic works better. This kind of underestimation is painful! I had an outpatient surgery where they didn’t double check that the local was in effect, and dear gods does getting sliced by a scalpel hurt! And all I said was “ow”, so they didn’t believe me!

One of my best friends AND my mother-in-law are your height, and I know better than to mess with either of them! It sounds like you’re quite the tough lady as well! I hope that over time some of the people you’ve worked with have figured out not to underestimate you due to your size! That’s part of why I wanted to have a variety of heights in LeyLines. Heroes are often are depicted as these huge, imposing beings, but what makes a true hero has nothing to do with how tall a person is. It has everything to do with a willingness to take moral actions in difficult situations. People of all shapes, sizes, and backgrounds are capable of greatness under pressure.

I once went to a massive camping event where 95% of the people there were teenage boys (I was a teenage girl at the time). They treated me like a very wimpy goddess. They figured I must be treated with the utmost respect and adoration, but not to be treated like an actual human who can set up tents, thank you very much. It was interesting and extremely frustrating.

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